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Why you shouldn’t install the national messenger Max from the developers of VKontakte

Posted by MrErmar - 4 days ago


Hello everyone, first of all let’s celebrate that I’ve reached 50 fans! This was a huge achievement for me, and thank you so much for helping me reach this number — it really means a lot. Next time, let’s aim for 100 fans on my Newgrounds channel.


And now, let me explain why you shouldn’t install the national messenger Max "Макс даже ловит на парковке!".


Lately, you can hear more and more advertising about a new so-called “national” messenger called Max. It’s being heavily promoted in the media, promising free communication, safety, and convenience. But behind the polished picture lies a lot of problems you should know about in advance.


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A story that could happen to anyone


Imagine this: you download Max. The app immediately asks for access to everything on your phone — camera, microphone, contacts, photos, and even your location. You can’t refuse: if you disable even one permission, the messenger simply won’t launch.


At first, everything seems normal. Chats work, calls go through. But soon, strange things start happening:

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Messages sometimes disappear or arrive with delays.


“Recommended contacts” show up, even though you never gave out your number.


Calls get interrupted, and later your friends say they heard strange background noises — as if someone was eavesdropping.


A few weeks later, you notice your conversations are being used against you. For example, a colleague gets fired because his private chat “suddenly” ended up with the boss. Another friend is denied access to education because he wrote something “wrong” in a private conversation.


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What makes Max dangerous


1. Total control — the app collects data about every user.


2. No privacy — conversations can be listened to and analyzed.


3. Censorship — any word disliked by the system could result in a ban.


4. Imposed monopoly — Max is promoted as the only option, even though people actually have a choice.

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Conclusion


The national messenger Max may look like a convenient service, but in reality, it’s a tool for surveillance and control. By installing it, you’re handing over your private life into someone else’s hands.


Remember: the freedom of communication and confidentiality are worth more than any promises of “safety.” Always think before you hit that “download” button.

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Спасибо, полезно, не собиралась это устанавливать и так. Вот только одна проблема, тут мало кто вообще его скачает, так как в основном все не русскоговорящие...

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Thanks, useful, I hadn't planned to install it even. But there's the problem, there's not much people who would install it, because almost nobody speaks russian here.

Even if I know Vkontakte, I never heard of this app but I thank you for letting me know of its existence. Ohhhhh, I've also found this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/software/kremlin-backed-max-messenger-app-to-be-pre-installed-on-all-smartphones-sold-in-russia/ar-AA1KXJHG

p.s. congrats for the 50 fans! Let's got for 100!

@ShangXian You're lucky that you don't have such crap in your country. By the way bad fact, VKontakte steals all the data, and there were thousands of leaks from local databases. VK saves all messages and saved pics on some "internal servers", and they can be returned and checked any time. Here was an incident, someone saved an lgbt-related picture, and they were sued after some years passed.-.

Oh about preinstalling it to all new devices - it's sadly true. They can literally spy using that app, and teachers/profs force students to install it.

@SnSQRS Under this perspective I'm lucky and I know VK's vulnerabilities, at the same time with this Chat Control bs that stupid Denmark wants I am on the edge because while I do expect from authoritarian countries these behaviours, I expected better from EU. But I don't give up easily when it comes to my rights, this is why I'm pestering with many emails as many MEPs as possible to make pressure on them so they can have an informed opinion and try to influence other MEPs.

Sometimes I like to joke that EU entered its villain arc XD
(I laugh not to cry).

@ShangXian And don't give up, if stuff you do will help... I think 2025 is the worst year for the internet, I remember you shared the stuff in Denmark and oh, real shit. Dang I wonder if next year will be worse

@SnSQRS Keep in mind that this bs proposed by Denmark is part of a bigger plan for 2030 where Internet is thought to be more controlled, I mean surface Internet ofc. Those who will get fucked up will be the law-abiding people not those who know their shit and can continue to do their illegal stuff.

I'm also spreading that link (fight chatcontrol.eu) to my friends, contacts and people I know even irl. I'm trying to educate my father too and to make it more effective I always tell him: if you don't have anything to hide, then hang your keys and a paper with sensitive data about your payment methods, IBAN number, etc. outside your door.

Use this little trick to make people understand that everyone has always something to hide and this thing to hide could be simply the social number, credit card data, etc.

I agree this 2025 sucked a lot for Internet, but I blame 2016. That was the turning point for Internet with the end of net neutrality. Take a look at pre-2016 Internet and now, you will see how many things have been eroded gradually.

Honoré de Balzac, in his novel Les Employés (translated as The Bureaucrats), delves deeply into the labyrinthine workings of a French agency during Napoleonic France's state bureaucracy, conveying the machinations, political alliances, and complex characters with astonishing texture and detail. In this work he mentions the silent apocalypse as the true danger for Nations posed by mediocre people who erode little by little the social net of the a nation's apparatus.

Similarly with these policies aimed at controlling Internet even more, we see pieces of this majestic yet chaotic creature called Internet getting removed. We must fight.

Oakily Dokily

@ShangXian holy shit. Surface internet, you mean like an open internet without loopholes and prohibited crap? Hell of a plan I see...

Good you're educating your father tho, I mean it's hella important, older people should know stuff. Thanks btw, its useful.

I already forgot about what was in 2016 (I was using internet to play Roblox, listen to Michael Jackson and watch cartoons back then, I was like 9 y.o.). But must say, the Internet seemed more comfortable before 2016.

Oh Balzac, the The topic you are covering seems quite smart.. and quite relevant. We must fight indeed.

Yeah, I would suggest before you download anything, I look for anything suspicious about the program and make sure anything can not be used against you, especially if corrupt governments like Putin's Russia use it to censor or remove political opponents.